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[WalterGaudério]

Gostei do F-15 naval...

Pois é. e ainda por cima havia uns Strike Eagle. Tudo muito barato sem dúvida.

[P44]

acho que esta noticia passou despercebida aqui

Indian Navy Stunned By Latest Russian Demand For Gorschkov
Forecast International | Feb 24, 2009


NEW DELHI: The Indian Navy has been stunned by a Russian demand for an additional $700 million payment for the completion of the reconstruction of the aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov. This brings the total demanded by the Russians to $2.9 billion, more than three times the originally-contracted price and a truly outrageous sum by any international standards.

In addition to this latest demand, the Russians have confirmed that the ship will not be completed until 2012, four years later than originally planned.

These latest demands come as a savage blow to the Indian delegation that was planning to negotiate over the original Russian demand for an additional $1.2 billion. The delegation was hoping to find some middle ground over this extra demand but the new imposition seems to end any such hopes. India has already paid $500 million as per terms of the initial contract.

The Russian delegation has said that regardless of the outcome of this round of negotiations, Sevmarsh wants an immediate payment of $190 million to continue work that's underway.

To put these sums and times into context, India could purchase a new carrier from the U.K. or France for $2.9 billion and probably get it delivered as quickly as the Russians are proposing.

The sum demanded by the Russians in unconscionably high for a ship that is already twenty years old, had been laid up for a decade and has suffered damage from at least two serious on-board fires. The rapidly escalating cost of rebuilding this ship can also be seen as an admission of the ship's bad condition after this long period of neglect.

A logical Indian response to this latest demand would be to tell the Russians that they can keep their hulk and either find a new supplier or accelerate the Indian indigenous aircraft carrier program.

While the progress on that program has been slow and the date of completion has now been pushed to 2014-15, directing $2.9 billion of additional funding into that effort could well serve to accelerate progress nicely. Alternatively, there are plenty of shipyards that could build a new carrier for the same sum.

What really matters now is whether the Indian Navy will be so scandalized by these latest demands that it will be politically possible for them to walk away from the Gorschkov.

Undoubtedly, doing so would be the sensible course of action. After all, there is an old naval adage that is very relevant: "Reconstruction Never Pays."

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish ... 017208.php

[P44]

OLHA A COLEIRINHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

US orders GE to stop operationalising gas turbines on Shivalik Frigates

If the United States ranks near the bottom amongst India’s defence suppliers, Washington’s penchant for imposing sanctions and restrictions has much to do with it. Now, the US appears to have shot itself in the foot again. The Indian Navy chose to power its indigenously designed, cutting-edge stealth warship, the INS Shivalik, with gas turbines from American company General Electric (GE). But even as the Shivalik readies for sea trials, the US State Department has ordered GE to stop all work on the turbines it has supplied.

Vice Admiral HS Malhi (Retired), chairman and managing director of Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL), which built the Shivalik, has confirmed to Business Standard that GE has received instructions to stop operationalising (making ready for operations) the two new LM 2500 gas turbines that it supplied for the Shivalik. GE has told MDL that there could be up to three months delay, while the new US administration reviews its military relations with several countries. India is not alone in facing this ban; GE has been told to stop work even with close US allies like the UK and Australia.


MDL has clearly been taken by surprise. Says Admiral Malhi, “It is quite surprising that such a letter has been received from GE. They said the (US) State Department could take up to 3-4 months to re-look at relations with these countries. We don’t have that kind of time; we have to deliver the ship to the navy.”

The Shivalik stealth frigate is powered by four engines, in what is termed a CODOG (COmbined Diesel Or Gas) arrangement. Normal operations are powered by two Pielstick diesel engines, supplied by France. The gas turbines kick in for short bursts during combat, when extra power is needed. They are less fuel-efficient than diesel engines, but provide high performance. This is the first time that US turbines have been installed in an Indian-built frigate.

MDL is now exploring whether it can use another GE subsidiary to operationalise the Shivalik’s turbines, without invalidating GE’s warranty. According to Admiral Malhi, “If GE allows us to use one of its licensees, the delay can be cut down to a month. GE is not averse to that, as long as no American person is involved in the work.”

GE has not responded to an email, asking for details of this delay. The US State Department has also ignored a request for information. A spokesperson of the US Embassy in New Delhi has sidestepped the question, replying by email that, “The State Department has not instructed GE in the conduct of this direct commercial sale. Aspects of this sale were subject to export licensing, which is conducted through the State Department.”

When asked to comment specifically on blanket orders from the State Department to GE regarding commercial defence dealings with India, the US Embassy did not respond.

Recent Indian frigates were powered by Russian turbines. But GE’s LM 2500 gas turbines were chosen for three Project 17 frigates (of which INS Shivalik is the first) because of their better reliability. More than one thousand LM 2500 turbines power more than 400 warships in 30 navies across the world. In addition, the LM 2500 is used for power generation in luxury cruise liners like the QE II.

US defence industry sources indicate that GE is upset by the State Department’s directives, which clearly damage GE’s commercial interests. The ban, suggest sources, was imposed by an “over-enthusiastic State Department bureaucrat”, keen to display that the Obama administration was on the ball from the beginning. But in India, the ban is already generating talk of an unwise choice in going for a US engine.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... ge/351062/

[P44]

olha ela aí!!!!!!!!

US Freezes Engine Supply, Navy in a Fix


(Source: Times of India; issued March 17, 2009)



NEW DELHI --- Strange are the ways of the US. Just when India had shed its long-standing opinion of the US being an unreliable arms supplier, given its propensity to impose sanctions at the drop of a hat, Washington has let loose a strange missile.

The Navy was all set to launch sea trials of the first of the three Shivalik-class stealth frigates being built at Mazagon Docks (MDL) when it got a rude shock on learning the new Obama administration had directed American company General Electric (GE) to stop all work on the gas turbine engines which power the warships.

Sources said MDL and Navy are now scrambling to get Italian company Fiat Avio to oversee the "operationalisation'' of the two GE LM-2500 gas turbines of the 4,900-tonne frigate, named INS Shivalik, to ensure its sea trials can begin within a month or two.

GE, on its part, told Indian authorities that the US state department had asked it to freeze all work on the turbines it has supplied till the Obama administration reviewed its military ties with different countries.

Though the direction is not India-specific and includes other countries, it will hit the already delayed plans to induct INS Shivalik -- the other two, INS Satpura and INS Sahyadri, are now slated for delivery by 2010 -- within "a few months''.

Interestingly, this is the first time American engines have been used in an Indian-built frigate. The engines earmarked for the ambitious 37,500-tonne IAC (indigenous aircraft carrier) being built at Cochin Shipyard, incidentally, are also the LM-2500 gas turbines.

Though GE has told Indian authorities that it will take three months or so to resolve the export control imbroglio, the episode has put a big question mark on US as a reliable long-term defence supplier.

Moreover, New Delhi and Washington are yet to resolve their differences over pacts like End-Use Monitoring Agreement (EUMA) and Communication Interoperability and Security Memorandum Agreement (CISMOA), which basically govern sensitive technology control requirements to "minimise'' security risks to US and its allies, as required under its domestic laws.

This comes at a time when India has just inked the biggest-ever defence deal with US in the shape of the $2.1 billion contract between the Indian defence ministry and Boeing for eight P-8I long-range maritime reconnaissance aircraft in January.

India's main objection to EUMA and its "enhanced version'' relates to periodic "onsite physical verification'' by American inspectors, which it contends are "intrusive'' in nature.

With no overarching EUMA in place, India and US have been reduced to signing specific end-use agreements for different defence deals like the $962-million contract signed in 2007 for six C-130J `Super Hercules' aircraft for Indian special forces.

Domestic political sensitivities have also acted as a stumbling block for India to sign the contentious Logistics Support Agreement (LSA). On the lines of the Access and Cross-Servicing Agreement the US has signed with over 60 countries, the LSA envisages Indian and American militaries providing logistic support, berthing and refuelling facilities for each other's warships and aircraft on a barter or equal-value exchange basis.

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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... india.html

[P44]

será desta

Russia confirms Admiral Gorshkov delivery to India in 2012

Moscow April 21, 2009 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will deliver the modernized Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier to the Indian Navy in 2012, a senior shipbuilding industry official has said.

"Under an agreement with India, the aircraft will be delivered in 2012. Almost 2,000 highly-qualified workers are currently involved in the overhaul [of the ship]," Vladimir Pakhomov, the president of Russia's United Shipbuilding Corporation, said in an interview published on Tuesday with the Vremya Novostei newspaper.

"We will increase the number of workers and speed up the work, making sure that it does not affect the quality. We are continuing talks with Indian officials about the additional financing of the project," he added.

The original $750 million 2004 contract between Russia's state-run arms exporter Rosoboronexport and the Indian Navy envisioned that work on the aircraft carrier would be completed in 2008.

However, Russia later claimed it had underestimated the scale and the cost of the modernization and demanded an additional $1.2 billion, which New Delhi said was "exorbitant."

After long-running delays and disputes, Russia and India agreed in February 2008 to raise retrofit costs for the aircraft carrier, docked at the Sevmash shipyard in northern Russia for the past 12 years, by at least $800 million.

The current contract covers a complete overhaul of the ship and equipping it with modern weaponry, including MiG-29K Fulcrum aircraft and Ka-27 Helix-A and Ka-31 Helix-B anti-submarine helicopters.

The Admiral Gorshkov carrier, renamed the Vikramaditya, is to replace India's INS Viraat carrier, which, although currently operational, is now 50 years old.

After modernization, the carrier is expected to be seaworthy for 30 years.


seawaves.com

[WalterGaudério]

será desta

Russia confirms Admiral Gorshkov delivery to India in 2012

Moscow April 21, 2009 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will deliver the modernized Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier to the Indian Navy in 2012, a senior shipbuilding industry official has said.

"Under an agreement with India, the aircraft will be delivered in 2012. Almost 2,000 highly-qualified workers are currently involved in the overhaul [of the ship]," Vladimir Pakhomov, the president of Russia's United Shipbuilding Corporation, said in an interview published on Tuesday with the Vremya Novostei newspaper.

"We will increase the number of workers and speed up the work, making sure that it does not affect the quality. We are continuing talks with Indian officials about the additional financing of the project," he added.

The original $750 million 2004 contract between Russia's state-run arms exporter Rosoboronexport and the Indian Navy envisioned that work on the aircraft carrier would be completed in 2008.

However, Russia later claimed it had underestimated the scale and the cost of the modernization and demanded an additional $1.2 billion, which New Delhi said was "exorbitant."

After long-running delays and disputes, Russia and India agreed in February 2008 to raise retrofit costs for the aircraft carrier, docked at the Sevmash shipyard in northern Russia for the past 12 years, by at least $800 million.

The current contract covers a complete overhaul of the ship and equipping it with modern weaponry, including MiG-29K Fulcrum aircraft and Ka-27 Helix-A and Ka-31 Helix-B anti-submarine helicopters.

The Admiral Gorshkov carrier, renamed the Vikramaditya, is to replace India's INS Viraat carrier, which, although currently operational, is now 50 years old.

After modernization, the carrier is expected to be seaworthy for 30 years.


seawaves.com

Sei não Us$1.2... adicionais..., eu não pagaria não. Já que a ìndia já constoi o primeiro ADS, eu empregaria este dinheiro para acelerar a contrução deste Bicho ao invés de manter os empregos da Sevmahpredpryiatye.

[luis F. Silva]

Walterciclone escreveu:

Sei não Us$1.2... adicionais..., eu não pagaria não. Já que a ìndia já constoi o primeiro ADS, eu empregaria este dinheiro para acelerar a contrução deste Bicho ao invés de manter os empregos da Sevmahpredpryiatye.

Desceu para 800 millhões.

After long-running delays and disputes, Russia and India agreed in February 2008 to raise retrofit costs for the aircraft carrier, docked at the Sevmash shipyard in northern Russia for the past 12 years, by at least $800 million.

[WalterGaudério]

Walterciclone escreveu:

Sei não Us$1.2... adicionais..., eu não pagaria não. Já que a ìndia já constoi o primeiro ADS, eu empregaria este dinheiro para acelerar a contrução deste Bicho ao invés de manter os empregos da Sevmahpredpryiatye.

Desceu para 800 millhões.

After long-running delays and disputes, Russia and India agreed in February 2008 to raise retrofit costs for the aircraft carrier, docked at the Sevmash shipyard in northern Russia for the past 12 years, by at least $800 million.

Mesmo assim Luís...

[luis F. Silva]

Já pareço o P 44 a vender material russo

The current contract covers a complete overhaul of the ship and equipping it with modern weaponry, including MiG-29K Fulcrum aircraft and Ka-27 Helix-A and Ka-31 Helix-B anti-submarine helicopters.

[Carlos Mathias]

Olha, eu já li que é na verdade um reconstrução do navio, porque as modificações são muito extensas.

[P44]

Já pareço o P 44 a vender material russo

The current contract covers a complete overhaul of the ship and equipping it with modern weaponry, including MiG-29K Fulcrum aircraft and Ka-27 Helix-A and Ka-31 Helix-B anti-submarine helicopters.

eu depois mando as garrafas do vodka

[WalterGaudério]

Já pareço o P 44 a vender material russo

eu depois mando as garrafas do vodka

Esquisito, pois cotou-se os armamentos aéreos MIG 29K e Helix integrado ao custo de Overhaul...

[P44]

AEGIS para a India

Lockheed Martin briefs Indian Navy on Aegis missile defence system
April 23rd, 2009 - 10:08 pm ICT by IANS Tell a Friend -

New Delhi, April 23 (IANS) US aerospace major Lockheed Martin has briefed the Indian Navy on its ship-mounted Aegis ballistic missile defence system and is also open to integrating it with indigenously developed armament, company officials said Thursday.
“We have briefed the Indian Navy on what is the only system that can cope with the highest state-of-the art threats,” Dan Howard, Lockheed Martin’s senior advisor for Asia and Pacific affairs, said at a select media interaction here.

“As for the response, that’s something you’ll have to ask the Indian Navy about,” he added.

Howard also said the company was open to collaborating with India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) on integrating its Prithvi Air Defence Shield (PADS) with the Aegis launcher and command and control system.

“Yes, we are open to collaborative measures. It all depends on what you (the Indian Navy and DRDO) want,” the official said.

The Aegis system, explained Richard G. Kirkland, president for South Asia of Lockheed Martin Global Inc., “is not meant to defend the ship it is mounted on but tasked to defend a broad area of sea lanes”.

He pointed out that 14 successful tests of the Aegis system had been conducted so far to intercept incoming targets within and outside the earth’s atmosphere, including one in November 2007 in which two short-range ballistic missiles were near simultaneously intercepted and destroyed.

And, in February 2008, a long-range missile fired from a specially-modified Aegis system successfully shot down a toxic US satellite with a precision strike that ensured that no “hot” debris fell earthwards.

“We completed the modification in 60 days,” Kirkland pointed out.

The Aegis system can track more than 100 missiles with its electronic systems and supercomputers, and engage them according to their threat priority.

It can engage, and strike, targets in the air, on sea, on the surface, and also sub-surface. The system’s command and decision-making core allows its computers to differentiate between missiles, debris, and friendly aerial vehicles, launching an attack only on what needs to be attacked.

Apart from the US Navy, the Aegis system is operational on Japanese, South Korean, Norwegian, Spanish and Australian naval vessels.

It is currently deployed on 85 ships around the globe with more than 20 additional ships planned or under contract.

http://bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=10783

[P44]

India to get delivery of first nuclear submarine by year end



Wed, May 13 01:33 PM

Vinay Shukla Khabarovsk (Russia), May 13 (PTI) India is all set to get its first new generation Akula-II class nuclear attack submarine by the year end, which would bolster the Navy's undersea capability manifold. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has ordered the delivery of the submarine to the Indian Navy and has sanctioned USD 300 million for successful completion of the project.

Russia was to deliver the Akula-II class submarine to the Indian Navy on a 10-year lease in June. But the project suffered delay as in the course of sea trials the submarine, earmarked for India, met with an accident on November eight last year killing 20 sailors and injuring 17 others.

But the shipyard has repaired the damage caused by the mishap during sea trials. "The repairs are complete and the vessel is technically ready for the resumption of sea trials," an official of the Amur Shipyard was quoted as saying by Interfax.

Putin visited the shipyard on Monday and Presidential Envoy Viktor Ishayev latyer told PTI that during the visit "Putin had discussed in detail the Indian submarine project and ordered new trials be completed speedy and the vessel delivered to Indian Navy by the end of this year." PTI.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20090513/14 ... nucle.html

[Carlos Mathias]

Eu acho este tipo de desenho de casco muito bonito e hidrodinâmico.