Força Aérea Portuguesa (FAP)
Moderadores: Glauber Prestes, Conselho de Moderação
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Tenho aqui mais umas acabadinhas de sair da fornalha desta vez dos Asas
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them."
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Foto oficial da FAP referente a Outubro de 2008:
E já agora a de Setembro onde os velhinhos AluetteIII continuam a fazer das suas:
E de Agosto, onde a esquadrilha asas de Portugal continua a levar o prestíguio do país pelo mundo:
E já agora a de Setembro onde os velhinhos AluetteIII continuam a fazer das suas:
E de Agosto, onde a esquadrilha asas de Portugal continua a levar o prestíguio do país pelo mundo:
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Destacamento "Noble Ardent 08"
03-10-2008 / http://www.emfa.pt/www/
De 3 a 17 de Outubro, na Base Aérea de Mont-de-Marsan, França, a Força Aérea Portuguesa irá participar no Destacamento “Noble Ardent 08” com seis aeronaves F-16 e 70 militares.
A participação desta força neste exercício de certificação tem por objectivo testar a integração e a interoperabilidade em operações combinadas, validando desta forma as suas capacidades e nível de prontidão com vista ao emprego na componente aérea da “NATO Response Force 12” (NRF 12).
O conceito “NATO Response Force” (NRF) surgiu na Cimeira de Praga em Novembro de 2002, com o objectivo de permitir à Aliança dispor de uma Força credível de resposta rápida a cenários de crise ou potencial instabilidade, dentro ou fora da área de responsabilidade da NATO.
A NRF consiste numa força conjunta e combinada, gerada a partir das contribuições dos Estados-Membros, com missão específica atribuída (Task) e unidades individuais pré-designadas adequadas à mesma (Tailored to the mission). Mantém-se em elevada prontidão (5-30 dias) e com capacidade para se auto-sustentar por um período de 30 dias. Em termos de comando e controlo, a NRF integra a estrutura de forças e comando NATO (NATO Force Structure – NFS/NATO Command Structure-NCS).
A certificação das unidades/forças por entidades externas, sem a qual não poderão ser empregues, implica a participação das mesmas em exercícios de certificação previstos para a respectiva componente.
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http://dn.sapo.pt/2008/10/13/nacional/g ... trang.htmlGoverno vende menos dois 'F-16' ao estrangeiro
MANUEL CARLOS FREIRE
Defesa. Processo aprovado no âmbito da Lei de Programação Militar, em 2006
A intenção do Governo em obter 290 milhões de euros com a venda de material militar sofreu novo revés com a diminuição, de 12 para 10, do número de caças F-16 a alienar ao estrangeiro.
A decisão de vender 12 F-16 - num total de 40 aviões - foi tomada no quadro da Lei de Programação Militar (LPM) aprovada pelo Conselho de Ministros, em Junho de 2006. Mas há dias, numa visita às oficinas da OGMA (onde está em curso a modernização dos caças) em Alverca, o ministro da Defesa, Nuno Severiano Teixeira, disse - sem adiantar quaisquer pormenores - que o número de caças a vender era de 10.
Na base da decisão está a queda de um F-16 há alguns meses, num pinhal próximo de Leiria, já que era um dos aparelhos marcados para venda. Isso resulta da posição assumida pelo chefe do Estado-Maior da Força Aérea, general Luís Araújo, numa entrevista à edição de Setembro do jornal Take-Off (especializado em aviação).
Mas essa situação apenas explica a redução de 12 para 11, e não 10, dos aviões a alienar. Questionado pelo DN, o Ministério da Defesa remeteu para a posição assumida por Severiano Teixeira no passado dia 30 de Setembro, quando "confirmou que 10 das aeronaves estão disponíveis para alienação".
Recorde-se que o Executivo decidiu alienar equipamentos militares ao estrangeiro para, com os 290 milhões de euros que previa obter nesse processo, reforçar a modernização das Forças Armadas. Além dos F-16, constavam da lista uma dezena de helicópteros Puma - armazenados há quase dois anos e, sem comprador, recentemente recuperados para complementar a actividade dos helis EH101 nos Açores - e Alouette III, bem como as duas fragatas da classe João Belo. Desse pacote, onde podem incluir-se ainda os aviões de transporte Aviocar C-212, só os navios foram vendidos - ao Uruguai - e por 13 milhões de euros.
Quanto aos caças F-16, o ministro Nuno Severiano Teixeira disse já haver negociações com países terceiros, que não identificou porque "o segredo é a alma do negócio". Esse processo carece do parecer prévio - que em regra demora vários anos - do Congresso dos EUA. |
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E eu continuo a a achar que a venda desse aviões, ainda para mais já MLU, é um erro crasso.
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Foto do mês de Novembro da página da FAP:
http://www.emfa.pt/www/imgMes
Realmente parece que começa a haver falta de matéria nova
Ou estes são os 4 Puma que foram recentemente para os Açores?
http://www.emfa.pt/www/imgMes
Realmente parece que começa a haver falta de matéria nova
Ou estes são os 4 Puma que foram recentemente para os Açores?
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Hoje, por volta das 22h10, um Kamov da protecção civil sobrevoou a minha zona, aos círculos e depois foi-se embora. Alguém sabe o motivo? Pareceu-me que ele sobrevoava a autoestrada. Fazia um barulho ensurdecedor, batido, muito diferente dos Merlin e dos Lynx. Ouvia-se a uma grande distância e quando passou na vertical da minha casa lembrei-me de ter lido no FD que parecia uma batedeira a trabalhar e o som realmente, não anda longe dessa definição.
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andava á procura de elementos subversivos a soldo do eixo madrid-moscovoJLRC escreveu:Hoje, por volta das 22h10, um Kamov da protecção civil sobrevoou a minha zona, aos círculos e depois foi-se embora. Alguém sabe o motivo? Pareceu-me que ele sobrevoava a autoestrada. Fazia um barulho ensurdecedor, batido, muito diferente dos Merlin e dos Lynx. Ouvia-se a uma grande distância e quando passou na vertical da minha casa lembrei-me de ter lido no FD que parecia uma batedeira a trabalhar e o som realmente, não anda longe dessa definição.
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Eles passam com alguma frequência na minha zona e são têm sem dúvida alguma um som bastante difernete da dos outros helis.JLRC escreveu:Hoje, por volta das 22h10, um Kamov da protecção civil sobrevoou a minha zona, aos círculos e depois foi-se embora. Alguém sabe o motivo? Pareceu-me que ele sobrevoava a autoestrada. Fazia um barulho ensurdecedor, batido, muito diferente dos Merlin e dos Lynx. Ouvia-se a uma grande distância e quando passou na vertical da minha casa lembrei-me de ter lido no FD que parecia uma batedeira a trabalhar e o som realmente, não anda longe dessa definição.
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não terá sido esse Kamov que o JLRC fala que esteve envolvido nas operações policiais da noite de sexta, em Setubal?
os jornais falaram de um heli que impediu a pop. de dormir até altas horas da madrugada
os jornais falaram de um heli que impediu a pop. de dormir até altas horas da madrugada
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Também já pensei nissoP44 escreveu:não terá sido esse Kamov que o JLRC fala que esteve envolvido nas operações policiais da noite de sexta, em Setubal?
os jornais falaram de um heli que impediu a pop. de dormir até altas horas da madrugada
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EU Countries Sign European Air Transport Agreement
By JULIAN HALE
Published: 11 Nov 13:54 EST (18:54 GMT)
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BRUSSELS - Twelve EU countries have agreed to take part in efforts to establish a European Air Transport Fleet to address the EU's long-running strategic airlift capability shortfall. The defense ministers of Belgium, the Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia and Spain signed a declaration of intent to take part in the initiative at a European Defence Agency (EDA) meeting in Brussels on Nov. 10.
According to an EDA news release, "Participation can take different forms: making aircraft available; purchasing, providing or exchanging flying hours; or to provide and benefit from shared and/or pooled support functions (training, maintenance, etc.)."
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"The main focus is on the A400M as this is where things have advanced furthest," EDA Chief Executive Alexander Weis said.
He said members may also contribute other strategic means.
Initial operational capability is expected by 2014, "when the first aircraft will be available in the pool, although we don't know how many," he said.
EU member states that do not own A400Ms may ask for flight hours, Weis said. Another option being considered is for some countries without A400Ms to order them jointly. He added that nothing had yet been decided in terms of operational and business models but that "his understanding is that A400Ms contributed to the pool would remain the property of member states."
Under the current timetable, a memorandum of understanding and terms of reference will be agreed in November 2010 and full operational capability is due by 2017.
By JULIAN HALE
Published: 11 Nov 13:54 EST (18:54 GMT)
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BRUSSELS - Twelve EU countries have agreed to take part in efforts to establish a European Air Transport Fleet to address the EU's long-running strategic airlift capability shortfall. The defense ministers of Belgium, the Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia and Spain signed a declaration of intent to take part in the initiative at a European Defence Agency (EDA) meeting in Brussels on Nov. 10.
According to an EDA news release, "Participation can take different forms: making aircraft available; purchasing, providing or exchanging flying hours; or to provide and benefit from shared and/or pooled support functions (training, maintenance, etc.)."
Related Topics
* Europe
* Air Warfare
"The main focus is on the A400M as this is where things have advanced furthest," EDA Chief Executive Alexander Weis said.
He said members may also contribute other strategic means.
Initial operational capability is expected by 2014, "when the first aircraft will be available in the pool, although we don't know how many," he said.
EU member states that do not own A400Ms may ask for flight hours, Weis said. Another option being considered is for some countries without A400Ms to order them jointly. He added that nothing had yet been decided in terms of operational and business models but that "his understanding is that A400Ms contributed to the pool would remain the property of member states."
Under the current timetable, a memorandum of understanding and terms of reference will be agreed in November 2010 and full operational capability is due by 2017.
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European Air Transport Fleet Launched
(Source: European Defence Agency; issued November 10, 2008)
European Defence Ministers, meeting in the Steering Board of the European Defence Agency, launched today concrete initiatives and projects for improving European military capabilities. Decisions were taken on programmes related to air transport, maritime surveillance and helicopters, amongst others.
"This is the concrete follow-up to the discussions which took place at the Informal EU Defence Ministers meeting in Deauville early October. We are seeing today that the Agency can very quickly translate political intentions into concrete proposals. These programmes will create tangible European capabilities and improve the capacity for crisis management operations”, said Head of the Agency Javier Solana, who chaired the meeting.
European Air Transport Fleet
European Defence Ministers launched today EDA work on establishing a European Air Transport Fleet (EATF). A Declaration of Intent on participation in the initiative was signed by Defence Ministers of Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia and Spain.
The EATF aims at reducing European air transport shortfalls by pooling aircraft such as the A400M and C130. Participation can take different forms: making aircraft available; purchasing, providing or exchanging flying hours; or to provide and benefit from shared and/or pooled support functions (training, maintenance, etc.). Milestones have been set with the aim of reaching EATF initial operational capability by the next decade.
“The EATF Declaration is most welcome, as pooling European aircraft and services will improve the lift capabilities and alleviate a significant European shortfall”, said Alexander Weis, the Agency’s Chief Executive.
Maritime Mine Counter-Measures
The Steering Board also launched two other projects. Ten Member States (Belgium, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania and Sweden) plus Norway will work closely together in an EDA project for the future replacement of their maritime mine counter-measures capabilities in an EDA project.
Activities will commence with an assessment phase, leading to recommendations for the selection of systems solutions and addressing all relevant aspects. Mine counter-measures in littoral sea areas has been identified as one of the initial 12 prioritised actions in the context of the Agency’s Capability Development Plan (CDP).
Future Unmanned Aerial System
Another project, related to Maritime Surveillance, is the launch of work for a Future Unmanned Aerial System. Based on common requirements, seven Member States (Finland, France, Germany, Poland, Portugal, Spain and Sweden) will begin the preparations for the development of an unmanned aerial system, which will be able to take off and land on a ship’s deck. This future system will increase the capability for wide area surveillance in support of ESDP operations, a need which has been identified in the Capability Development Plan.
Space-based Earth Surveillance System
Five Member States (Belgium, France, Germany, Greece, Spain) signed a Letter of Intent on the second generation of space-based imaging capacity. This Multinational Space-based Imaging System for surveillance, reconnaissance and observation (MUSIS) project aims at continuity of service from 2015 onwards. The MUSIS partners intend to launch an EDA Category B project on the basis on their initiative, which will be open for other Member States' participation.
Helicopters
The Steering Board endorsed a roadmap for the Helicopter Tactics Training Programme, part of the Agency’s work to improve availability of helicopters for ESDP operations. The contents of this programme will be defined in the course of 2009, based on the results of two studies – focussing on the requirements – and the lessons learned from an exercise, to take place in France in spring 2009. The Programme itself will start in 2010.
“The Agency is quickly progressing with its helicopter work. The Helicopter Tactics Programme is proving that in some cases training can provide additional capabilities in the short-term. Improving ESDP capabilities does not always require new equipment”, said Alexander Weis, EDA’s Chief Executive.
Ministers also took stock of the progress made on the Agency’s work on upgrading helicopters, with the aim to offer a detailed menu with upgrade options by spring 2009.
Germany and France informed the Steering Board of their intent to bring their bilateral initiative for a Future Transport Helicopter into the Agency in the near future, opening up the project to other interested Member States. The project aims at developing intra-theatre transport helicopter for the 2020+ timeframe.
European Defence Research and Technology Strategy
Ministers endorsed the European Defence Research and Technology (EDRT) Strategy to enhance and develop more effective research collaboration to deliver timely the right technologies in support of military capabilities. The Strategy defines “ends” (key technologies to invest in), “means” (how to invest better, such as through improved R&T collaborations) and “ways” (roadmaps and action plans). Four of the 12 priority actions of the Capability Development Plan have been chosen for identifying potential R&T projects: Counter-Man Portable Air-Defence Systems (C-MANPADS), Mine Counter- Measures, Counter-Improvised Explosive Devices (C-IED) and Chemical, Biological and Radiological or Nuclear (CBRN) - specifically detection of biological weapons.
The EDRT Strategy completes the EDA work on its strategic framework. With the CDP as the overall strategic tool this framework consists of the EDRT Strategy, the Armaments Cooperation Strategy (endorsed in October 2008) and the European Defence Technological and Industrial Base Strategy (endorsed in May 2007).
Innovative Concepts and Emerging Technologies
Ten Member States (Cyprus, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Spain) plus Norway signed the Programme Arrangement for the Joint Investment Programme on Innovative Concepts and Emerging Technologies (JIP-ICET). The Programme aims at promoting basic research cooperation, for example on an integrated navigation architecture and on nanotechnologies for soldier protection.
Forum for Military Airworthiness Authorities
Ministers decided to create a European Union-wide Forum for Military Airworthiness Authorities. This Forum will be used to harmonise the different national military airworthiness regulations within the European Union in order to stop duplication of work, to reduce costs and to shorten timelines for multinational procurement.
Work Programme
The Steering Board approved the Agency’s Work Programme for 2009. The focus of the Work Programme is on concrete projects, in particular related to the 12 prioritised actions stemming from the Capability Development Plan. The Agency will have a 2009 budget of EUR 30 million, including EUR 8 million operational budget for studies, and will recruit ten new staff. The budget was adopted by the General Affairs and External Relations Council in Defence Ministers formation.
Defence Data 2007
Ministers were informed on the results of the Agency’s defence data-collecting for 2007 and on the assessment of the collective benchmarks for Defence R&T and equipment procurement.
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European Air Transport Fleet Launched
(Source: European Defence Agency; issued November 10, 2008)
European Defence Ministers, meeting in the Steering Board of the European Defence Agency, launched today concrete initiatives and projects for improving European military capabilities. Decisions were taken on programmes related to air transport, maritime surveillance and helicopters, amongst others.
"This is the concrete follow-up to the discussions which took place at the Informal EU Defence Ministers meeting in Deauville early October. We are seeing today that the Agency can very quickly translate political intentions into concrete proposals. These programmes will create tangible European capabilities and improve the capacity for crisis management operations”, said Head of the Agency Javier Solana, who chaired the meeting.
European Air Transport Fleet
European Defence Ministers launched today EDA work on establishing a European Air Transport Fleet (EATF). A Declaration of Intent on participation in the initiative was signed by Defence Ministers of Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia and Spain.
The EATF aims at reducing European air transport shortfalls by pooling aircraft such as the A400M and C130. Participation can take different forms: making aircraft available; purchasing, providing or exchanging flying hours; or to provide and benefit from shared and/or pooled support functions (training, maintenance, etc.). Milestones have been set with the aim of reaching EATF initial operational capability by the next decade.
“The EATF Declaration is most welcome, as pooling European aircraft and services will improve the lift capabilities and alleviate a significant European shortfall”, said Alexander Weis, the Agency’s Chief Executive.
Maritime Mine Counter-Measures
The Steering Board also launched two other projects. Ten Member States (Belgium, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania and Sweden) plus Norway will work closely together in an EDA project for the future replacement of their maritime mine counter-measures capabilities in an EDA project.
Activities will commence with an assessment phase, leading to recommendations for the selection of systems solutions and addressing all relevant aspects. Mine counter-measures in littoral sea areas has been identified as one of the initial 12 prioritised actions in the context of the Agency’s Capability Development Plan (CDP).
Future Unmanned Aerial System
Another project, related to Maritime Surveillance, is the launch of work for a Future Unmanned Aerial System. Based on common requirements, seven Member States (Finland, France, Germany, Poland, Portugal, Spain and Sweden) will begin the preparations for the development of an unmanned aerial system, which will be able to take off and land on a ship’s deck. This future system will increase the capability for wide area surveillance in support of ESDP operations, a need which has been identified in the Capability Development Plan.
Space-based Earth Surveillance System
Five Member States (Belgium, France, Germany, Greece, Spain) signed a Letter of Intent on the second generation of space-based imaging capacity. This Multinational Space-based Imaging System for surveillance, reconnaissance and observation (MUSIS) project aims at continuity of service from 2015 onwards. The MUSIS partners intend to launch an EDA Category B project on the basis on their initiative, which will be open for other Member States' participation.
Helicopters
The Steering Board endorsed a roadmap for the Helicopter Tactics Training Programme, part of the Agency’s work to improve availability of helicopters for ESDP operations. The contents of this programme will be defined in the course of 2009, based on the results of two studies – focussing on the requirements – and the lessons learned from an exercise, to take place in France in spring 2009. The Programme itself will start in 2010.
“The Agency is quickly progressing with its helicopter work. The Helicopter Tactics Programme is proving that in some cases training can provide additional capabilities in the short-term. Improving ESDP capabilities does not always require new equipment”, said Alexander Weis, EDA’s Chief Executive.
Ministers also took stock of the progress made on the Agency’s work on upgrading helicopters, with the aim to offer a detailed menu with upgrade options by spring 2009.
Germany and France informed the Steering Board of their intent to bring their bilateral initiative for a Future Transport Helicopter into the Agency in the near future, opening up the project to other interested Member States. The project aims at developing intra-theatre transport helicopter for the 2020+ timeframe.
European Defence Research and Technology Strategy
Ministers endorsed the European Defence Research and Technology (EDRT) Strategy to enhance and develop more effective research collaboration to deliver timely the right technologies in support of military capabilities. The Strategy defines “ends” (key technologies to invest in), “means” (how to invest better, such as through improved R&T collaborations) and “ways” (roadmaps and action plans). Four of the 12 priority actions of the Capability Development Plan have been chosen for identifying potential R&T projects: Counter-Man Portable Air-Defence Systems (C-MANPADS), Mine Counter- Measures, Counter-Improvised Explosive Devices (C-IED) and Chemical, Biological and Radiological or Nuclear (CBRN) - specifically detection of biological weapons.
The EDRT Strategy completes the EDA work on its strategic framework. With the CDP as the overall strategic tool this framework consists of the EDRT Strategy, the Armaments Cooperation Strategy (endorsed in October 2008) and the European Defence Technological and Industrial Base Strategy (endorsed in May 2007).
Innovative Concepts and Emerging Technologies
Ten Member States (Cyprus, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Spain) plus Norway signed the Programme Arrangement for the Joint Investment Programme on Innovative Concepts and Emerging Technologies (JIP-ICET). The Programme aims at promoting basic research cooperation, for example on an integrated navigation architecture and on nanotechnologies for soldier protection.
Forum for Military Airworthiness Authorities
Ministers decided to create a European Union-wide Forum for Military Airworthiness Authorities. This Forum will be used to harmonise the different national military airworthiness regulations within the European Union in order to stop duplication of work, to reduce costs and to shorten timelines for multinational procurement.
Work Programme
The Steering Board approved the Agency’s Work Programme for 2009. The focus of the Work Programme is on concrete projects, in particular related to the 12 prioritised actions stemming from the Capability Development Plan. The Agency will have a 2009 budget of EUR 30 million, including EUR 8 million operational budget for studies, and will recruit ten new staff. The budget was adopted by the General Affairs and External Relations Council in Defence Ministers formation.
Defence Data 2007
Ministers were informed on the results of the Agency’s defence data-collecting for 2007 and on the assessment of the collective benchmarks for Defence R&T and equipment procurement.
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Acabaram-se o C-17 que o Rui tanto queria...?
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que significa isto em lingua de branco?
vamos ter draga-minas? realmente nós para assinarmos papeis comprometendo-nos a tudo e mais alguma coisa somos os "maióres"...o pior é depoisMaritime Mine Counter-Measures
The Steering Board also launched two other projects. Ten Member States (Belgium, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania and Sweden) plus Norway will work closely together in an EDA project for the future replacement of their maritime mine counter-measures capabilities in an EDA project.
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