Helicópteros de Ataque e Transporte

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#3841 Mensagem por alcmartin » Sáb Set 13, 2008 11:03 am

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Dez dias de cadeia, Pablo! Fornecimento de informações confidenciais... :evil:
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#3842 Mensagem por Glauber Prestes » Sáb Set 13, 2008 12:12 pm

AUEhauheAU!!! Mais um "causo" das forças armadas!!!




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#3843 Mensagem por Virgulino » Sáb Set 13, 2008 12:20 pm

Tem q criar um topico de "causos"como esse...




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#3844 Mensagem por Junker » Sáb Set 13, 2008 12:26 pm

Olha a AS aí:
Private aviation group works on own attack-helicopter design

By: Martin Zhuwakinyu
Published: 12 Sep 08 - 9:00

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IN CONCEPT PHASE: A front view of the New Attack Helicopter



South African aviation and defence company Advanced Technologies and Engineering (ATE) has embarked on conceptual planning for the development of what is to be known as the New Attack Helicopter (NAH), external affairs director Lorris Duncker tells Engineering News.

This comes on the back of the successful upgrade of the Russian-made Mi-24 helicopter, now in production for the air force of a North African country and the demonstration of another upgraded Russian stalwart – the Mi-17 combat helicopter – to an unnamed potential customer.

The Mi-17 upgrade entailed the night vision goggle-compatible conversion of all cockpit and cabin lighting, external navigation and formation lighting and the inclusion of infrared landing lights. It also included the installation of glass cockpit avionics, a sighting system and a weapons system that incorporates twin 23-mm cannons in pylon slung pods, eight Ingwe missiles on stub-wing outboard stations, rocket pods and chaff and flare countermeasures.

The demonstration of the upgraded Mi-17 helicopter, expected to lead to the signing of a deal early next year, took place in the potential customer's country.

"The Mi-17 upgrade success is based upon the capability and experience that ATE has created, both in itself and in the South African defence industry, when it upgraded a large fleet of Russian Mi-24 helicopters aimed at significantly enhancing its operational performance," says Duncker.

He states that the design philosophy for the NAH "is to use proven and operational weapons systems and to design an airframe around that, rather than following some existing design phisolophies, which focus predominantly on the airframe, leaving the weapons system development to the last".

It is envisaged that the platform features of the NAH will include a tandem layout; an all-composite airframe with integral infrared suppressors; and an engine, a gearbox and a drivetrain similar to those on the South African-made Rooivalk attack helicopter.

It will also feature a weapons system comprising a turret-mounted 20-mm dual-feed cannon with a range of up to 2 000 m; guided and unguided rockets; canister-protected, and laser beam-riding guided Ingwe missiles on stub-wing outboard stations, boasting a range of 500 m to 5 000 m. The missiles will be capable of penetrating 950 mm rolled homogeneous armour.

The weapons system will also boast chaff and flare countermeasures coupled to the mission electronic warfare system, including missile approach warning, radar warning and laser warning.

The NAH's avionics will include a three-screen glass cockpit for each crew station, a digital map with Doppler/global positioning system hybrid navigation, a communications and electronic warfare suite, an identification-of-friend-or-foe system and a voice/data recorder.

The sighting system will comprise a nose-mounted system, boasting three field-of-view forward-looking infrared and three field-of-view TVs; provision for laser range finding; autotracking, missile guidance and laser designation capabilities; a helmet-mounted sighting system for cannon and sight cueing; and binocular vision displays on the visors of both crew members. Aiming and flight information will be displayed in the field of view.

"The focus of the NAH will be to transfer technology and to create the capability for a new helicopter industry in the country of the prospective customer," says Duncker.

Meanwhile, ATE has announced the successful flight qualification of composite main rotor blades for the Mi-24 helicopter and the completion of the preliminary design and characterisation of composite blades for the Mi-17 helicopter, the development of which has started.

"Composite blades have an infinite operating life and an infinite shelf life, thus enabling operators to procure a single set of composite blades for the lifespan of the helicopter, whereas, previously, six sets of metal blades would have to be procured," says Duncker.

"Composite rotor blades could replace metal blades without any change or modification to the helicopter, its procedures and performance or the standard documentation."

In another development, ATE is to unveil a Pall vortex engine air particle separator system for the Mi-24 helicopter at the Africa Aerospace and Defence 2008 exhibition, to be held in Cape Town on September 17 to 21. The new system will provide protection to the engine from fine sand and dust particles, thereby doubling its operating life.

Edited by: Martin Zhuwakinyu

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/articl ... _id=142196
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#3845 Mensagem por Glauber Prestes » Sáb Set 13, 2008 12:31 pm

Virgulino escreveu:Tem q criar um topico de "causos"como esse...
Eu tenho alguns causos da Marinha, e posso postar depois.




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#3846 Mensagem por thelmo rodrigues » Sáb Set 13, 2008 12:48 pm

Junker escreveu:Olha a AS aí:
Private aviation group works on own attack-helicopter design

By: Martin Zhuwakinyu
Published: 12 Sep 08 - 9:00

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IN CONCEPT PHASE: A front view of the New Attack Helicopter



South African aviation and defence company Advanced Technologies and Engineering (ATE) has embarked on conceptual planning for the development of what is to be known as the New Attack Helicopter (NAH), external affairs director Lorris Duncker tells Engineering News.

This comes on the back of the successful upgrade of the Russian-made Mi-24 helicopter, now in production for the air force of a North African country and the demonstration of another upgraded Russian stalwart – the Mi-17 combat helicopter – to an unnamed potential customer.

The Mi-17 upgrade entailed the night vision goggle-compatible conversion of all cockpit and cabin lighting, external navigation and formation lighting and the inclusion of infrared landing lights. It also included the installation of glass cockpit avionics, a sighting system and a weapons system that incorporates twin 23-mm cannons in pylon slung pods, eight Ingwe missiles on stub-wing outboard stations, rocket pods and chaff and flare countermeasures.

The demonstration of the upgraded Mi-17 helicopter, expected to lead to the signing of a deal early next year, took place in the potential customer's country.

"The Mi-17 upgrade success is based upon the capability and experience that ATE has created, both in itself and in the South African defence industry, when it upgraded a large fleet of Russian Mi-24 helicopters aimed at significantly enhancing its operational performance," says Duncker.

He states that the design philosophy for the NAH "is to use proven and operational weapons systems and to design an airframe around that, rather than following some existing design phisolophies, which focus predominantly on the airframe, leaving the weapons system development to the last".

It is envisaged that the platform features of the NAH will include a tandem layout; an all-composite airframe with integral infrared suppressors; and an engine, a gearbox and a drivetrain similar to those on the South African-made Rooivalk attack helicopter.

It will also feature a weapons system comprising a turret-mounted 20-mm dual-feed cannon with a range of up to 2 000 m; guided and unguided rockets; canister-protected, and laser beam-riding guided Ingwe missiles on stub-wing outboard stations, boasting a range of 500 m to 5 000 m. The missiles will be capable of penetrating 950 mm rolled homogeneous armour.

The weapons system will also boast chaff and flare countermeasures coupled to the mission electronic warfare system, including missile approach warning, radar warning and laser warning.

The NAH's avionics will include a three-screen glass cockpit for each crew station, a digital map with Doppler/global positioning system hybrid navigation, a communications and electronic warfare suite, an identification-of-friend-or-foe system and a voice/data recorder.

The sighting system will comprise a nose-mounted system, boasting three field-of-view forward-looking infrared and three field-of-view TVs; provision for laser range finding; autotracking, missile guidance and laser designation capabilities; a helmet-mounted sighting system for cannon and sight cueing; and binocular vision displays on the visors of both crew members. Aiming and flight information will be displayed in the field of view.

"The focus of the NAH will be to transfer technology and to create the capability for a new helicopter industry in the country of the prospective customer," says Duncker.

Meanwhile, ATE has announced the successful flight qualification of composite main rotor blades for the Mi-24 helicopter and the completion of the preliminary design and characterisation of composite blades for the Mi-17 helicopter, the development of which has started.

"Composite blades have an infinite operating life and an infinite shelf life, thus enabling operators to procure a single set of composite blades for the lifespan of the helicopter, whereas, previously, six sets of metal blades would have to be procured," says Duncker.

"Composite rotor blades could replace metal blades without any change or modification to the helicopter, its procedures and performance or the standard documentation."

In another development, ATE is to unveil a Pall vortex engine air particle separator system for the Mi-24 helicopter at the Africa Aerospace and Defence 2008 exhibition, to be held in Cape Town on September 17 to 21. The new system will provide protection to the engine from fine sand and dust particles, thereby doubling its operating life.

Edited by: Martin Zhuwakinyu

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/articl ... _id=142196
Será para o Brasil? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Seria bom se a Brascopter já estivesse mais amadurecida , robusta e contando com apoio financeiro oficial.




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#3847 Mensagem por Túlio » Sáb Set 13, 2008 12:57 pm

glauberprestes escreveu:
Virgulino escreveu:Tem q criar um topico de "causos"como esse...
Eu tenho alguns causos da Marinha, e posso postar depois.
Cries então o tópico nos 'Geraes', será divertido, instrutivo e evitaremos o off-topic. :wink:




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#3848 Mensagem por Flávio Rocha Vieira » Sáb Set 13, 2008 9:40 pm

:D Muito bom o "causo"!!!

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#3849 Mensagem por Penguin » Seg Set 15, 2008 2:54 am

Na concorrencia polonesa para o novo helicoptero de transporte despontam dois favoritos: NH90 e S-70I (International Black Hawk). Nada de EC725.

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DATE:13/09/08
SOURCE:Flight International
Bidders manoeuvre for Polish transport helicopter deal
By Bartosz Glowacki

NH Industries' NH90 and Sikorsky's S-70I International Black Hawk remain the front runners for a Polish land forces requirement for a new fleet of transport helicopters, although the latter's S-92 could yet come into contention.

Warsaw is still waiting to launch a tender for the stalled programme, the outcome of which could be influenced by the nation's search for a strategic investor in domestic manufacturer PZL Swidnik. Bidders include the Czech Republic's Aero Vodochody, Anglo-Italian AgustaWestland, which is responsible for marketing the NH90 in the country, and Chinese company AVIC II which is preparing to start licence production of the Polish firm's W-3 Sokol.

Industry sources say AgustaWestland is the favoured partner, due to its ability to transfer modern technologies and establish long-term co-operation with PZL Swidnik, and a decision is expected before year-end.


Sikorsky also wants to be a key player in Poland's helicopter industry, and has already made a significant investment in PZL Mielec's facilities. Production of an initial two UH-60M Black Hawk cabins will be completed at the site this year, and up to 100 will be manufactured during 2009.

PZL Mielec is also preparing to establish an assembly line and flight test facility for the International Black Hawk. "Manufacturing of the first elements of the S-70I prototype will start in April 2009," says chief executive Janusz Zakrecki, who expects the aircraft to make its first flight in April/May 2010. Zakrecki says series production will start with eight aircraft in 2011 and ramp up to 20 a year in 2014.

Some parts for the S-70I, UH-60 and S-92 will also be produced in Poland, and Bruce McKinney, Sikorsky's vice-president Europe, says the company "is also looking for small Polish companies capable of producing some parts and providing completion of the S-70I interior".

Speaking during the 8-11 September International Defence Industry Exhibition (MSPO) in Kielce, McKinney added: "Not only the S-70I will be offered for the Polish land forces as a tactical transport helicopter [TTH]. If the S-92 will be able to meet with Polish requirements for ASW [anti-submarine warfare] or TTH then we will offer the helicopter in these versions."

Sikorsky also hopes to contest an emerging Polish tender for VIP helicopters, and displayed an S-92 prototype at the MSPO show. The company is likely to face competition from AgustaWestland's AW139 for the deal.




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#3850 Mensagem por Carlos Mathias » Seg Set 15, 2008 11:14 am

Ué, não vão nem considerar nosso maravilhoso EC-725 de plástico?




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#3851 Mensagem por delmar » Seg Set 15, 2008 12:29 pm

Os poloneses estão virando os maiores puxa-saco dos americanos. Estão apostando tudo nos EUA, acreditando que vão ser o Israel da Europa central. Escudo antí missil, aviões, helicópteros, tropas no Iraque e outras. Com desconfiança secular dos russos e dos alemães, a Polonia quer um status de potência na Europa. Observando a história acho que segue uma trilha perigosa ao desprezar os vizinhos. Os EUA estão longe e a Russia e Alemanha estão ao lado.

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#3852 Mensagem por Sniper » Seg Set 15, 2008 12:55 pm

Carlos Mathias escreveu:Ué, não vão nem considerar nosso maravilhoso EC-725 de plástico?
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#3853 Mensagem por PRick » Seg Set 15, 2008 1:25 pm

Santiago escreveu:Na concorrencia polonesa para o novo helicoptero de transporte despontam dois favoritos: NH90 e S-70I (International Black Hawk). Nada de EC725.

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DATE:13/09/08
SOURCE:Flight International
Bidders manoeuvre for Polish transport helicopter deal
By Bartosz Glowacki
É compra de prateleira, e como os polacos gostam de ter o rabo preso, antes eram com os soviéticos, agora, com os EUA. Não existe concorrência, vai dar o BH ou S-92.

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#3855 Mensagem por Brasileiro » Ter Set 16, 2008 5:20 pm

Metal_777 escreveu:eu to meio voando, a fab ja se decidiu sobre os helicopteros de ataque?
Mas nem que a mãe do Medvedev aparecesse morta e durinha atrás da porta do presidente Lula...




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