JAS-39 Gripen

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#2596 Mensagem por Sintra » Qua Out 17, 2007 11:35 am

Plinio Jr escreveu:Tbm achei um tanto salgado, mas seria bom aguardar mais informações detalhadas sobre como esta compra está sendo fechada e quais condições para mesma... :!:


Nos jornais Suecos aparece uma informação que talvez explique estes valores:

Included in the deal is also airborne radar and fire control system for the [Royal] Thai AF [sic].


Erieye?




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#2597 Mensagem por Benke » Qua Out 17, 2007 11:40 am

Contract finalized on Gripen's future

Saab will upgrade 31 Swedish Gripen aircraft to the latest standard. The
contract with FMV, the Swedish Defence Material Administration, is worth
SEK 3.9 billion, also covering a demonstrator programme for Gripen's future
development.

The contract, which was signed today, follows decisions taken earlier this
year by the government and the parliament based on a proposal by the
Supreme Commander of the Swedish Armed Forces. Of the total value,
approximately SEK 3 billion is a new order for Saab, while the rest
consists of investments that had previously been agreed to.

"The order is a clear sign that Sweden believes in Gripen's future," says
Saab's CEO Åke Svensson. "The upgrade ensures the Gripen production, and
the demonstrator programme gives us the opportunity to prove Gripen's
strong development capabilities."

The contract with FMV covers the upgrade of 31 Gripen from the A/B standard
to the latest C/D version. As a result, the Swedish Air Force will have a
uniform Gripen fleet with greater functionality, which will improve
cost-effectiveness and create new opportunities to participate in
international missions. The upgrade begins later this year.

The contract also includes an order for a demonstrator programme for
Gripen, consisting of one aircraft and a ground-based avionics rig. The aim
of the programme is to show Gripen's future capabilities, and it includes,
among other things, a new, more powerful engine, new radar and the
capability of carrying more payload and fuel.

Besides Saab, a number of leading international companies have chosen to
invest in the programme, including General Electric, Honeywell,
Martin-Baker, APPH and Rockwell Collins. The Norwegian government has also
decided to participate in the development. Saab's commitment to the
demonstrator programme alone amounts to approximately SEK 1 billion.

"The demonstrator programme ensures Gripen's long-term value and takes the
system into the future. It is gratifying that such important players share
our conviction about Gripen's capabilities and future potential," says Åke
Svensson.




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#2598 Mensagem por soultrain » Qua Out 17, 2007 12:00 pm

Sintra,

Não consegues saber a que data, os Pilotos Brasileiros estiveram na F7?

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#2599 Mensagem por Degan » Qua Out 17, 2007 12:13 pm

PRick escreveu:
A-29 escreveu:Se o valor for esse mesmo, o Gripen tailandês está saindo meio salgado. Acima de US$ 90 milhões cada um!!! Esse dólar não vale mais nada mesmo...

O importante é que já são seis países apostando no Gripen. Bem que podia ter mais um aqui na América Latina :oops:


Por este preço, só se a FAB enlouquecer de vez! Isto não pode ser sério, 90 milhões de dólares por um caça que não chega a 15 toneladas!

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Los venderan por kg...???.




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#2600 Mensagem por Skyway » Qua Out 17, 2007 12:16 pm

Degan escreveu:
PRick escreveu:
A-29 escreveu:Se o valor for esse mesmo, o Gripen tailandês está saindo meio salgado. Acima de US$ 90 milhões cada um!!! Esse dólar não vale mais nada mesmo...

O importante é que já são seis países apostando no Gripen. Bem que podia ter mais um aqui na América Latina :oops:


Por este preço, só se a FAB enlouquecer de vez! Isto não pode ser sério, 90 milhões de dólares por um caça que não chega a 15 toneladas!

[ ]´s


Los venderan por kg...???.


Hehehehehehe, porra Degan, tú é chato.... :lol: :lol:




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#2601 Mensagem por P44 » Qua Out 17, 2007 12:17 pm

Benke escreveu:BANGKOK, Thailand: Thailand will purchase 12 Swedish-made jet fighters to replace Vietnam-era US warplanes, a military spokesman said Wednesday.

The Gripen-JAS 39C/D multi-role fighters, costing 34.4 billion baht (US$1.1 billion; €775 million), will take the place of US F-5 warplanes that have been in the Thai arsenal for three decades, said Royal Thai Air Force spokesman Monthon Suchakorn.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/ ... planes.php


também noticiado aqui
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bi ... ele=jdc_34

Sweden Clinches Thai Air Force Deal


(Source: Radio Sweden; issued Oct. 17, 2007)




Thailand will buy 12 Saab Gripen fighters in two batches to replace its F-5E Tigers, after the US ruled out the sale of F-16C/Ds. (Gripen photo)The Thai Air Force has announced plans to buy 12 Swedish-made JAS-39 Gripen fighter aircraft, in a deal worth some 573 million US dollars.

Saab is due to supply the first six aircraft between 2008 and 2012, with a decision on the delivery of the second six to be made later in the year.

Russia’s Sukoi Su-30 and the US-made F-16 were also in the running for the contract.

Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt welcomed the deal and news Thailand is to hold democratic elections in December.

The Swedish Air Force has ordered 200 Gripen, 142 of which have been delivered. South Africa has bought 28 of the aircraft, and Hungary and the Czech Republic have each leased 14. (ends)




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#2602 Mensagem por Benke » Qua Out 17, 2007 12:56 pm

Thailand selects Gripen and Erieye to meet its defence needsIn Bangkok, Thailand yesterday the Thai government announced the down-selection of the Saab Gripen new generation fighter, and the Saab Erieye Airborne Early Warning (AEW) system to meet its national defence needs.
17/10/2007 | The Thai Cabinet has approved a budget of 34,400 billion baht (US$ 1.1 billion) for the Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) to procure 12 (twelve) Gripen multi-role fighters, to replace its ageing fleet of F-5 B/E aircraft, and 2 (two) Saab Erieye AEW aircraft, together with associated equipment and services. Negotiations between Thai and Swedish government officials will now commence in order to conclude a formal agreement.


The procurement process is divided into two phases; Phase 1 (one) covers the procurement of 6 (six) Gripen fighters, including spare parts and training, and 1 (one) Saab Erieye AEW system aircraft in the sum of 19,000 billions baht (US$ 600 million), within a 5 (five) year budgetary commitment from 2008 to 2012. In Phase 2 (two), the RTAF intend to procure an additional 6 (six) Gripen fighters together with associated equipment, spare parts and training, and a second Saab Erieye AEW system aircraft in the sum of 15,400 billions baht (US$ 500 million) within a five year budgetary commitment from 2013 to 2017.

Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs, Carl Bildt says in a comment on Thailand and Gripen. “I welcome the decision from the Royal Thai government to start negotiations with the Swedish government, to purchase Gripen fighter aircraft and the Saab Erieye Airborne Early Warning (AEW) system. This decision once again confirms that Gripen is a world class and cost effective system. The selection of Gripen was made in fierce competition with advanced US and Russian systems”.

“We must now wait for the result of the formal negotiations that will now commence between the Swedish and Thai authorities. When a formal agreement is in place, this will be managed in accordance with the appropriate export legislation, rules and regulations” he stated.

Since 2003, the RTAF has been evaluating a suitable replacement for its ageing fleet of F-5 B/E fighters to undertake the air defence and protect the national interests of the Kingdom of Thailand. In its evaluations, the RTAF considered the requirements of suitable new generation aircraft to replace its F-5 B/E aircraft, including the need for true multi-role/swing-role capability, new generation flight control systems, communications systems, avionics systems and a weapons system. The new aircraft needed to be capable of joint operations and tactical data linking with allied ground, maritime and air forces, within an effective command and control system. In addition, the costs of operation, maintenance and through-life costs needed to be the lowest of aircraft of the same type.

Following its evaluation process, and in consideration of these critical performance issues, the RTAF has selected the Gripen multi-role fighter, manufactured by Saab to meet its future defence needs.

It is planned that the new Gripen fighters will be delivered into operational service in 2010. Sweden has also offered the Gripen fighters with a 2 (two) years maintenance and spare parts support package.

Moreover, other benefits in the form of Thai – Sweden co-operation are proposed to enhance economic security – such as industrial co-operation, maintenance and logistics co-operation, technology transfer, investment co-operation, export as well as science and technology.




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#2603 Mensagem por Pablo Maica » Qua Out 17, 2007 1:06 pm

Opa... será que entra um R-99 nessa parada?


Um abraço e t+ :D




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#2604 Mensagem por piratadabaixada » Qua Out 17, 2007 1:08 pm

De duas uma, ou o Erieye é muito caro ou o Gripen é muito caro.




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#2605 Mensagem por PRick » Qua Out 17, 2007 1:29 pm

Skyway escreveu:
Degan escreveu:
PRick escreveu:
A-29 escreveu:Se o valor for esse mesmo, o Gripen tailandês está saindo meio salgado. Acima de US$ 90 milhões cada um!!! Esse dólar não vale mais nada mesmo...

O importante é que já são seis países apostando no Gripen. Bem que podia ter mais um aqui na América Latina :oops:


Por este preço, só se a FAB enlouquecer de vez! Isto não pode ser sério, 90 milhões de dólares por um caça que não chega a 15 toneladas!

[ ]´s


Los venderan por kg...???.


Hehehehehehe, porra Degan, tú é chato.... :lol: :lol:


Se lembra daquele personagem que tinha num certo programa humorístico, que o cara ficava perguntando tudo "nos mínimos detalhes". Que arrumava um encrenca danada, porque a vírgula estava fora do lugar, o cara falava num carro e marca, ele queria saber qual era o modelo(gls, gti, gl ti, ect.), depois qual a sub-série do modelo, depois os equipamentos que estavam no modelo, depois falava, então não é o mesmo, porque este o espelho retrovisor era redondo e não o quadrado! O Degan é versão dele na vida real!! :lol: :lol:

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#2606 Mensagem por Cougar_PH » Qua Out 17, 2007 1:35 pm

Prick

O Explicadinho!!!!!

Ei, qndo for o casamento me avisa pra eu mandar o endereço e vcs dois me mandam o bolo por sedex...

É amor demais...........


hehehehehehhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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#2607 Mensagem por A-29 » Qua Out 17, 2007 1:38 pm

Benke escreveu:Contract finalized on Gripen's future

Saab will upgrade 31 Swedish Gripen aircraft to the latest standard. The
contract with FMV, the Swedish Defence Material Administration, is worth
SEK 3.9 billion, also covering a demonstrator programme for Gripen's future
development.

The contract, which was signed today, follows decisions taken earlier this
year by the government and the parliament based on a proposal by the
Supreme Commander of the Swedish Armed Forces. Of the total value,
approximately SEK 3 billion is a new order for Saab, while the rest
consists of investments that had previously been agreed to
.

"The order is a clear sign that Sweden believes in Gripen's future," says
Saab's CEO Åke Svensson. "The upgrade ensures the Gripen production, and
the demonstrator programme gives us the opportunity to prove Gripen's
strong development capabilities."

The contract with FMV covers the upgrade of 31 Gripen from the A/B standard
to the latest C/D version. As a result, the Swedish Air Force will have a
uniform Gripen fleet with greater functionality, which will improve
cost-effectiveness and create new opportunities to participate in
international missions. The upgrade begins later this year.

The contract also includes an order for a demonstrator programme for
Gripen, consisting of one aircraft and a ground-based avionics rig. The aim
of the programme is to show Gripen's future capabilities, and it includes,
among other things, a new, more powerful engine, new radar and the
capability of carrying more payload and fuel.

Besides Saab, a number of leading international companies have chosen to
invest in the programme, including General Electric, Honeywell,
Martin-Baker, APPH and Rockwell Collins. The Norwegian government has also
decided to participate in the development. Saab's commitment to the
demonstrator programme alone amounts to approximately SEK 1 billion.

"The demonstrator programme ensures Gripen's long-term value and takes the
system into the future. It is gratifying that such important players share
our conviction about Gripen's capabilities and future potential," says Åke
Svensson.


Considerando o câmbio, os tais três bihões de coroas suecas valem uns 460 milhões de dólares, o que dá mais ou menos 15 milhões para a atualização de cada Gripen.

Só falta saber quanto custa cada um dos tais 70 estocados e fazer as contas :P




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#2608 Mensagem por PRick » Qua Out 17, 2007 1:53 pm

Cougar_PH escreveu:Prick

O Explicadinho!!!!!

Ei, qndo for o casamento me avisa pra eu mandar o endereço e vcs dois me mandam o bolo por sedex...

É amor demais...........


hehehehehehhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Poxa num sabia que você ia casar com ele não, mas vou logo dizendo que neste eu tô fora. :lol: :lol:

E o nome do cara era este mesmo "O Explicadinho".

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#2609 Mensagem por Cougar_PH » Qua Out 17, 2007 1:59 pm

Prick

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Eu tbm, não...

E quem será, então...

hehehehehhh!!!!




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#2610 Mensagem por Bolovo » Qua Out 17, 2007 2:38 pm

OFICIAL GRIPENS + AEW de brinde

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Thailand's Air Force will buy six JAS-39 Gripen fighter jets from Sweden's Saab for 19.5 billion baht ($574 million) to replace ageing F-5E fighters, Air Force chief Chalit Pukphasuk said on Wednesday.
A member of the selection panel had said on Tuesday the Air Force would buy 12 Gripens in two batches, but Chalit told a news conference approval of the second batch would have to wait until a new government took office after a December general election.

The first six would be bought between 2008 and 2012 and the second batch "as soon as possible", Chalit said.

"We still prefer to have Gripen for the rest of the fleet, but it is up to the next government and the economic conditions then," he said.

The Air Force said in a statement 15.4 billion baht was set aside for the second phase of the purchase between 2013 and 2017.

The news pushed SAAB share price up 3.15 percent by 0914 GMT.

The choice of a replacement fighter had been under discussion since Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, ousted in a bloodless coup last year, came to power in 2001.

The selection panel member said the Air Force wanted the F-16 CD, but the United States was not allowed to sell weapons to countries whose governments have been ousted in coups.

But Chalit said on Wednesday Gripens were chosen over other candidates because they had the most modern technology and the firm promised to transfer technology to Thailand while the F-16 would have to be upgraded soon.http://www.javno.com/en/economy/clanak.php?id=90404


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