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#1021 Mensagem por Plinio Jr » Seg Jul 24, 2006 10:46 pm

jacquessantiago escreveu:
Pablo Maica escreveu:Parece que a Arabia Saudita escolheu os europeus como seus principais fornecedores.

Elas esta para comprar 142 helicopteros da frança, incluindo 62 NH-90, 12 Tigers, 42 Fennec, 20 Cougar C-SAR e 4 Panther SAR

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bi ... ele=jdc_34


Um abraço e t+ :D


Premio de consolacao!


Putz...Quem dera nós pudessemos ter este prêmio de consolação.. :shock: :shock: :shock:




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#1022 Mensagem por Plinio Jr » Seg Jul 24, 2006 10:48 pm

jacquessantiago escreveu:
cb_lima escreveu:Como é bom ter din-din... a Arabia Saudita vai pegar os seus EF-2000 antes do que o esperado (inclusive pegando aeronaves antes destinadas aos ingleses e aos austríacos!)... :)

Saudi to get jets earlier
By Rupert Steiner
23 July 2006



SAUDI Arabia has agreed a deal with the British government to deliver Eurofighter jets, at present earmarked for the RAF and Austria, to the Kingdom because of the worsening situation in the Middle East.

The government is close to concluding a £5.4bn (E7.8bn, $10bn) contract with the Royal Saudi Airforce involving 72 Eurofighter Typhoon Jets being made by BAE Systems, part of the four-nation European consortium building the aircraft.

As part of the final terms of that contract, defence sources in Saudi Arabia said this weekend that Saudi Arabia has requested some of its Eurofighter order much earlier than BAE can deliver.

To meet the Saudi request, the government has agreed to divert some of the 144 planes being built for the RAF – and possibly some of 18 planes ordered by the Austrian Airforce – to Saudi instead.

Partner nations Germany, the UK, Italy and Spain have ordered more than 600 aircraft.

Des Browne, the UK Defence Secretary, will travel to Riyadh imminently to sign the final agreement on the Typhoon Acquisition Project with Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz al-Saud, the Saudi Crown Prince and Defence Minister.

The deal includes infrastructure contracts worth £30bn

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Pressao da ameaca iraniana


Não creio, eles possuem uma respeitável frota de F-15C/D/S , Tornados ADV/IDS, alem de aeronaves E-3 Sentry, nada que não possam conter o que os iranianos possuem no momento.




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#1023 Mensagem por soultrain » Ter Jul 25, 2006 7:52 pm

2 Senators Fight F-22 Multiyear Plans

By WILLIAM MATTHEWS


Two of the most influential members of the Senate Armed Services Committee set about July 25 to overturn the Senate’s vote for a multi-year purchase of F-22 stealth fighters.
Sens. John Warner, the committee chairman, and John McCain, chairman of the airland subcommittee, said a possible financial conflict-of-interest may invalidate estimates that the Air Force could save money by signing a three-year contract to buy 60 F-22s. They also warned that committing nearly $11 billion to the F-22 could make money unavailable for other aircraft, including the Joint Strike Fighter, C-130J cargo planes and refueling tankers.
Lockheed Martin builds the F-22 and C-130J, and leads the industry team developing the Joint Strike Fighter.
During an airland subcommittee hearing, Warner said conflict-of-interest allegations have tainted the findings of a research institute hired by the Air Force to determine whether a multi-year buy would save money.
The president of the Institute for Defense Analysis, retired Adm. Dennis Blair, owns stock and stock options in a subcontractor on the F-22 project and could benefit financially from a multi-year F-22 buy, according to a report by the Project on Government Oversight, a watchdog organization.
POGO said Blair is on the board of directors of EDO Corporation, an F-22 subcontractor.
“As of July 5, 2006, Blair owned 1,787 shares of stock and 30,000 stock options in the company. As a result, Blair himself stood to financially profit from a favorable multi-year procurement decision for the F-22,” the organization said.
A spokesman at IDA July 25 said the institute and Blair were preparing a response to the report.
Warner called the POGO discovery “extremely serious.” He added, “I really think it taints the validity of this report.”
The Air Force and F-22 maker Lockheed Martin relied heavily on IDA findings to convince senators to support a three-year buy of stealth fighters. The IDA concluded that a three-year deal would save $225 million to $235 million.
Analysts from three congressional agencies disagreed.
David Walker, U.S. comptroller general, said the multi-year buy would add $1.7 billion to the cost of the F-22 program. About $700 million of the extra cost comes from adding four planes – the Air Force had planned to buy 56 over two years rather than 60 over three. Another $1 billion comes from stretching the program by an extra year, Walker said.
Christopher Bolkcom of the Congressional Research Service, told the subcommittee, “I am not certain that the savings estimates are realistic. Many multi-year procurements never generate the savings they promised.”
David Newman of the Congressional Budget Office said the estimated savings are plagued by “the uncertainty inherent in such estimates.”
But Warner and McCain may have a tough time reversing the Senate decision to allow the multi-year F-22 buy. The Senate voted 70 to 28 for the buy in June despite the Armed Services Committee’s opposition.
Warner expressed shock. He said in his 28 years on the committee he had never seen the full Senate overturn a major decision by a subcommittee and full committee.
He attributed the reversal to an intense last-minute lobbying campaign by Lockheed Martin.
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., who pushed an amendment permitting the three-year F-22 buy through the Senate, maintained that multi-year buy will yield at least $225 million in savings.
An aide to Chambliss said the permission for the multi-year buy has been approved in the House as well as the Senate. “The vote is decisive. I don’t see how you back away from it,” he said.
But Warner said the conflict-of-interest allegation is a new fact that must be examined by a House-Senate conference committee.
He said, “One important voice hasn’t spoken yet: the conference chairman” — Warner himself.




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#1024 Mensagem por soultrain » Ter Jul 25, 2006 7:53 pm

Pact Clears Way for Sale of French Weapons to Saudi Arabia

By PIERRE TRAN, PARIS


France and Saudi Arabia have signed a defense cooperation agreement and an annex to a previous pact, the office of the French president’s spokesman, Jerome Bonnafont, said.
The agreements, signed July 21, were expected to pave the way for sales to the Saudi military of Dassault Rafale fighter aircraft, helicopters, transport planes, and Leclerc battle tanks, Agence France-Presse (AFP) news service reported, quoting Bonnafont. The helicopter and transport aircraft could be worth up to 4 billion euros ($5 billion), according to AFP.
The framework agreement also covers surface ships and submarines.
President Jacques Chirac, Saudi Crown Prince Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz and Defense Minister Sultan Ben Abel Aziz signed the main defense cooperation agreement, while the second pact was signed by the Saudi defense minister and his French counterpart, Michèle Alliot-Marie, AFP reported.
“Through these two agreements, Franco-Saudi cooperation in defense and security matters will be reinforced and new cooperation in military equipment will be undertaken,” the French presidency said in a statement.
The signing at the highest level of state set the framework for cooperation in military equipment and signaled a political commitment to realize those defense projects, the statement said.
The signings would initially lead to sale to Saudi Arabia of helicopters and Airbus aircraft, and later Rafale fighters and Leclerc tanks, AFP reported. Negotiations would follow in bilateral talks.




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#1025 Mensagem por soultrain » Ter Jul 25, 2006 7:59 pm

China Warns U.S. Not to Sell Fighters To Taiwan

By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, BEIJING


Beijing has warned Washington not to proceed with a reported deal to sell fighterss to Taiwan, indicating it would impact on regional security and harm Sino-U.S. relations, state media said on July 21.
”The Chinese side has taken note of the report and lodged serious representations to the United States,” China’s foreign ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao was quoted as saying by the official Xinhua news agency.
The China Times reported on July 17 that a Taiwanese delegation had proposed the procurement of 66 advanced fighter planes during an annual military meeting with Washington early this month.
If the report is confirmed, it would be the biggest arms deal Washington has offered Taiwan since 2001 when U.S. President George W. Bush agreed to provide the island with eight diesel-powered submarines, 12 P-3C submarine-hunting aircraft and an improved version of Patriot missiles, the paper said.
Taiwan’s defense ministry has declined comment on the report.
The new fleet of F-16C/D fighters aim to reinforce the air force’s combat capability before it can acquire so-called “third generation” fighters from the United States, the paper said.
The United States in 1992 agreed to sell Taiwan 150 less sophisticated F-16A/Bs, but refused to provide F-16C/Ds which have a longer range and powerful ground attack capability.
In addition to 146 F-16A/B fighters, the air force has 128 locally produced Indigenous Defense Fighters and 56 French-made Mirage 2000-5s, along with 60 or so aging F-5 Tigers.
Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian has pledged gradually to increase military spending to around three percent of gross domestic product, up from the current 2.5 percent.
China has repeatedly threatened to invade Taiwan should it move towards formal independence, prompting the island to seek more advanced weaponry.
China announced in March its military budget for this year would rise 14.7 percent to $35 billion, the latest in a series of double-digit annual increases dating back to the early 1990s.
A Pentagon report last year estimated that China’s defense spending was two to three times the publicly announced figure and that the cross-strait military balance was tipping in Beijing’s favor.
Bush met briefly in Washington on July 20 with China’s top military officer and highlighted Sino-U.S. cooperation on issues like North Korea and military matters, the White House said.
General Guo Boxiong was visiting the United States as part of a US-Chinese effort to expand cooperation between their militaries.




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#1026 Mensagem por soultrain » Ter Jul 25, 2006 8:26 pm

S. Africa, Malaysia Order Air Refueling Systems for A400M Airlifters

By ANDREW CHUTER, FARNBOROUGH, England

South Africa and Malaysia have awarded Cobham’s Air Refuelling & Auxiliary Mission Equipment Division an order to equip tanker versions of the A400M airlifter with air refueling systems.
The deal is worth more than £7m and covers the delivery of 16 Cobham 908E wing dispensing pods for eight tanker aircraft. Deliveries are scheduled to commence in 2010.
Wing pods and fuselage refueling units for French, German and Spanish A400M tankers have already been placed with the British-based company.




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#1027 Mensagem por talharim » Dom Jul 30, 2006 1:38 pm

A Turcaiada já tá fazendo Marketing da chegada dos seus novos caças...




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#1028 Mensagem por LEO » Dom Jul 30, 2006 2:23 pm

talharim escreveu:A Turcaiada já tá fazendo Marketing da chegada dos seus novos caças...

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Certo eles.




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#1029 Mensagem por FinkenHeinle » Dom Jul 30, 2006 2:55 pm

O que é "Aegean"?!

Egeu?!?




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#1030 Mensagem por LEO » Dom Jul 30, 2006 3:00 pm

FinkenHeinle escreveu:O que é "Aegean"?!

Egeu?!?


É. Aegean = Egeu em inglês.




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#1031 Mensagem por FinkenHeinle » Dom Jul 30, 2006 3:15 pm

LEO escreveu:
FinkenHeinle escreveu:O que é "Aegean"?!

Egeu?!?


É. Aegean = Egeu em inglês.

Suspeitei desde i princípio... :D :wink:




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#1032 Mensagem por faterra » Dom Jul 30, 2006 9:04 pm

Os gregos que se cuidem!




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#1033 Mensagem por Einsamkeit » Dom Jul 30, 2006 11:39 pm

Eles devem comprar uns Eurofighter para contrapor os F-35 Turcos, os Eua nao venderiam F-35 Stealth para eles, acho que só para os Israelenses, australianos, japoneses, ingleses...




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Lobos que foram homens e o tornarão a ser
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que insistem em não rasgar a pele
Homens que procuram ser lobos
mas que jamais o tornarão a ser...
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#1034 Mensagem por César » Dom Jul 30, 2006 11:52 pm

Bela propaganda essa dos turcos.




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#1035 Mensagem por Sniper » Ter Ago 01, 2006 8:55 am

Einsamkeit escreveu:Eles devem comprar uns Eurofighter para contrapor os F-35 Turcos, os Eua nao venderiam F-35 Stealth para eles, acho que só para os Israelenses, australianos, japoneses, ingleses...


Mas os Turcos não estão muito satisfeitos com a " importância " que os EUA vem dando a casos de terrorismo por parte dos Curdos em território Turco... :lol: :shock:




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